{"id":656,"date":"2024-07-09T11:29:46","date_gmt":"2024-07-09T11:29:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dikdurus.com\/?p=656"},"modified":"2024-07-09T11:29:46","modified_gmt":"2024-07-09T11:29:46","slug":"basin-gidin-boylesini-gormedik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dikdurus.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/09\/basin-gidin-boylesini-gormedik\/","title":{"rendered":"Bas\u0131n gidin&#8230; B\u00f6ylesini g\u00f6rmedik"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>CTP lideri Erh\u00fcrman, Mecliste \u201cadalet\u201d tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00fcndeme ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131; isim vermeden UBP Kad\u0131n Kollar\u0131 Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Fato\u015f \u00dcnal \u2018Juju\u2019ya uygulanan farkl\u0131 muameleye ve \u00c7al\u0131\u015fma Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00d6zel Kalem M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc K\u00f6se\u2019nin r\u00fc\u015fvet iddias\u0131yla yarg\u0131lanmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecine de\u011findi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cumhuriyet\u00e7i T\u00fcrk Partisi (CTP) Genel Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Tufan Erh\u00fcrman, Cumhuriyet Meclisi\u2019nin ola\u011fan\u00fcst\u00fc toplant\u0131s\u0131nda k\u00fcrs\u00fcye \u00e7\u0131karak, isim vermeden UBP Kad\u0131n Kollar\u0131 Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Fato\u015f \u00dcnal \u2018Juju\u2019ya, di\u011fer \u201csahte diploma\u201d zanl\u0131lar\u0131ndan farkl\u0131 bir muamele uygulanmas\u0131na tepki g\u00f6sterdi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erh\u00fcrman, \u201csahte re\u00e7ete\u201d soru\u015fturmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecinde ya\u015fanan tutuklamalar\u0131 an\u0131msatarak, \u201cNeden 80, 90 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir eczac\u0131, bir hekim bu muameleye tabi tutulurken \u2018x\u2019 ki\u015fi ba\u015fka bir muameleye tabi tutuldu? \u015eu anda toplumun geneli memlekette adaletin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erh\u00fcrman, yine isim vermeden. \u00c7al\u0131\u015fma ve Sosyal G\u00fcvenlik Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00d6zel Kalem M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc O\u011fuz K\u00f6se\u2019nin \u201cr\u00fc\u015fvet\u201d iddias\u0131yla tutuklan\u0131p yarg\u0131lanmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecine de\u011finerek, \u201cBirileri yolsuzluktan yarg\u0131lan\u0131yor, bu i\u015fin hi\u00e7 siyasi sorumlulu\u011fu yok mu? Bu arkada\u015flar 3\u2019l\u00fc kararname ile atan\u0131yor. Kimlerin imzas\u0131 var bu kararnamelerde? \u0130lgili bakan, Ba\u015fbakan ve Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131. Bu imzalar neden var? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc sorumluluk devletin tamam\u0131na aittir\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBu i\u015f b\u0131rak\u0131n Almanya\u2019da, Fransa\u2019da, \u0130ngiltere\u2019de\u2026 Endonezya\u2019da olsa h\u00fck\u00fcmet 15 defa istifa ederdi. Siz \u00f6yle bir noktadas\u0131n\u0131z ki istifay\u0131 ge\u00e7tim a\u00e7\u0131klama yapmay\u0131 \u00e7ok g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz. . \u0130stifa diye onurlu bir m\u00fcessese var\u201d diyen Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cSizden \u00f6nce de UBP H\u00fck\u00fcmetleri g\u00f6rd\u00fck ama b\u00f6ylesini g\u00f6rmedik arkada\u015flar. Bas\u0131n gidin\u2026\u201d \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cNeden 80, 90 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir eczac\u0131, bir hekim bu muameleye tabi tutulurken \u2018x\u2019 ki\u015fi ba\u015fka bir muameleye tabi tutuldu?\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mahkemelerde \u201cAdalet M\u00fclk\u00fcn Temelidir\u201d ifadesinin yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirten Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cSanki m\u00fclkiyetten bahsedildi\u011fi gibi d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor ama oradaki \u2018m\u00fclk\u2019 ifadesi, Osmanl\u0131cadan gelen anlam\u0131yla \u2018devlet\u2019 demektir. Bunu dedi\u011finiz zaman, \u2018adaleti ortadan kald\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z zaman, devletin temeline bomba koydunuz\u2019 demektir\u201d ifadelerini kulland\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Memleketin en sayg\u0131n kurum, kurulu\u015f ve ki\u015fileriyle ilgili davalar\u0131n g\u00fcndeme geldi\u011fini, sayg\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmayacak meslek gruplar\u0131n\u0131n tart\u0131\u015fma konusu haline getirildi\u011fini ifade eden Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cBiz bu konuda hep \u015funu s\u00f6yledik; insanl\u0131k, uygarl\u0131\u011fa ula\u015f\u0131rken bir tak\u0131m ilkeler olu\u015fturdu, bu ilkelere ba\u011fl\u0131 kalal\u0131m, herkes i\u00e7in ba\u011fl\u0131 kalal\u0131m, bir su\u00e7 varsa ayd\u0131nlanmas\u0131 i\u00e7in yarg\u0131ya g\u00fcven duyal\u0131m, m\u00fcdahale etmeyelim\u201d diyerek \u015f\u00f6yle devam etti:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYarg\u0131 kavram\u0131nda sadece ve sadece mahkemeler de\u011fildir s\u00f6z\u00fcn\u00fc etti\u011fimiz. B\u00fct\u00fcn s\u00fcre\u00e7te olan polis, savc\u0131l\u0131ktan devam edip mahkemeye kadar ula\u015fan s\u00fcre\u00e7ten bahsediyoruz. B\u00fct\u00fcn bu s\u00fcre\u00e7leri ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z \u015fekilde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fma olana\u011f\u0131na sahip k\u0131lal\u0131m. Kendi i\u015flerini kendileri yaps\u0131nlar dedik. Masumiyet karinesi sadece bizim anayasam\u0131zda olan bir \u015fey de\u011fil, yarg\u0131lan\u0131p h\u00fck\u00fcm giymeden herkesi masum saymak zorunday\u0131z. Tutuklama denilen m\u00fcesseseyi otomatik hale getirmemeliyiz. Yani delileri karartma riski varsa veya ka\u00e7ma riski varsa o zaman tutuklayal\u0131m dedik. Kelep\u00e7e uygulamas\u0131 i\u00e7in de, ger\u00e7ekten kendine veya ba\u015fkas\u0131na zarar verme ihtimali olan insanlara kelep\u00e7e tak\u0131ls\u0131n dedik, insanlar\u0131n onurlar\u0131n\u0131 zedelemeyelim dedik, bu masumiyet karinesine de ayk\u0131r\u0131d\u0131r dedik.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;\u201cSahte re\u00e7ete\u201d soru\u015fturmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecinde 80, 90 ya\u015f\u0131nda eczac\u0131lar\u0131n, hekimlerin, kelep\u00e7eli \u015fekilde bas\u0131n\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcnden ge\u00e7irilerek mahkemeye \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 an\u0131msatan Erh\u00fcrman, \u015f\u00f6yle devam etti:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cNeden 80, 90 ya\u015f\u0131nda bir eczac\u0131, bir hekim bu muameleye tabi tutulurken \u2018x\u2019 ki\u015fi ba\u015fka bir muameleye tabi tutuldu? \u0130nsanlara bu soruyu sordurmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z m\u00fcddet\u00e7e toplumda adalet alg\u0131s\u0131 olu\u015fturabiliriz. Ama ne oldu? 80, 90 ya\u015f\u0131nda insanlara kelep\u00e7e tak\u0131ld\u0131, yan\u0131nda iki izbandut gibi polis g\u00f6revlisinin aras\u0131nda, iki b\u00fckl\u00fcm \u015fekilde mahkemeye \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131ld\u0131.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201c\u015eu anda toplumun geneli memlekette adaletin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cBu memlekette polis m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc olan bir \u015fah\u0131s 3 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131. Kelep\u00e7e tak\u0131ld\u0131\u201d dedi, \u201cBir hukuk\u00e7u olarak, birine yanl\u0131\u015f yapt\u0131ysan di\u011ferine de yanl\u0131\u015f yap asla demem. Ama toplumun alg\u0131s\u0131nda olu\u015fan adaletsizli\u011fi de bu meclisten ge\u00e7irece\u011finiz yasalarla gideremezsiniz. \u015eu anda toplumun geneli memlekette adaletin olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor\u201d \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cKimsenin, toplumun adalet duygusunu bu \u015fekilde paspas etme hakk\u0131 yoktur\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0130sim vermeden, UBP Kad\u0131n Kollar\u0131 Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Fato\u015f \u2018Juju\u2019 \u00dcnal\u2019a mahkemelerde uygulanan muameleye i\u015faret eden Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cSabah bilmem ka\u00e7ta mahkeme \u00f6n\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131lmas\u0131 uygulamas\u0131, kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131m bir uygulama de\u011fil. Ama bunu herkese uygulaman\u0131z durumunda kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131m bir uygulama de\u011fil. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n onurunu evet, korumak gerekir. Dedikodularla \u015fu partiden, bu partiden gibi tart\u0131\u015fmalarla kamuoyunu yormad\u0131k. Lin\u00e7 k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcne de hi\u00e7 kat\u0131lmad\u0131k. Bize g\u00f6re masumiyet karinesine ayk\u0131r\u0131d\u0131r. Biz, uygarl\u0131\u011f\u0131n g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi ilkelerle hareket ettik. Ama kimsenin, toplumun adalet duygusunu bu \u015fekilde paspas etme hakk\u0131 yoktur\u201d ifadelerini kulland\u0131.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cBir polis m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc, bir ba\u015fbakan bu memlekette kelep\u00e7eli mahkemeye getirildi, 3 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131\u2026 Ama \u015fimdi g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz ki do\u011frusu farkl\u0131ym\u0131\u015f\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00dcstel H\u00fck\u00fcmeti\u2019nin, bu konularda hi\u00e7bir a\u00e7\u0131klama yapmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na i\u015faret eden Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cToplum a\u00e7\u0131klama isteyecek, siz hi\u00e7bir \u015fekilde yan\u0131t vermeyeceksiniz. Bizim derdimiz ki\u015filerle de\u011fil, bu memlekette adalet yoktur hissine, bir de bu hisse toplumun dahil edilmesidir. Meclise, h\u00fck\u00fcmete, bilmem hangi makam g\u00fcven yok, yarg\u0131ya da g\u00fcvenilmesin art\u0131k. \u0130nsanlar kendilerini tamamen g\u00fcvensiz hissetsin\u201d \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erh\u00fcrman, konu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131 \u015f\u00f6yle s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYineliyorum, bir polis m\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc bu memlekette 3 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131. Eski bir ba\u015fbakan kelep\u00e7eli halde mahkemeye getirildi, 3 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131. K\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck boyuyla, yan\u0131nda izbandut gibi polis g\u00f6revlileri, 3 g\u00fcn tutuklu kald\u0131. \u0130nsanlara yanl\u0131\u015f yap\u0131ld\u0131, \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p bu insanlardan \u00f6z\u00fcr dilendi mi? Var m\u0131yd\u0131 kelep\u00e7elerin bir gerek\u00e7esi? Ama \u015fimdi g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz ki do\u011frusu farkl\u0131ym\u0131\u015f. Madem do\u011frusu budur, bundan sonras\u0131 nas\u0131l olacak? B\u00fct\u00fcn soru\u015fturmalara 3 g\u00fcn tutukluluk verecekler mi? Kelep\u00e7e tak\u0131lacak m\u0131? Sabah m\u0131 getirilecek mahkemeye, yoksa \u00f6\u011fleden sonra m\u0131? Bas\u0131n orada olacak m\u0131?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cBu ya\u015fananlar Endonezya\u2019da olsa h\u00fck\u00fcmet 15 kez istifa ederdi\u2026 \u0130stifa diye onurlu bir m\u00fcessese var\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>T\u00fcm bunlar ya\u015fan\u0131rken, bir ba\u015fka olay\u0131n daha ya\u015fand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirten Erh\u00fcrman, yine isim vermeden. \u00c7al\u0131\u015fma ve Sosyal G\u00fcvenlik Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00d6zel Kalem M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc O\u011fuz K\u00f6se\u2019nin \u201cr\u00fc\u015fvet\u201d iddias\u0131yla tutuklan\u0131p yarg\u0131lanmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecine de\u011findi. Erh\u00fcrman, \u015f\u00f6yle devam etti:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBirileri yolsuzluktan yarg\u0131lan\u0131yor, bu i\u015fin hi\u00e7 siyasi sorumlulu\u011fu yok mu? Bu arkada\u015flar 3\u2019l\u00fc kararname ile atan\u0131yor. Kimlerin imzas\u0131 var bu kararnamelerde? \u0130lgili bakan, Ba\u015fbakan ve Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131. Bu imzalar neden var? Sadece ilgili bakan sorumlu olacak olsa sadece ilgili bakan imza atard\u0131. Neden Ba\u015fbakan ve Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 da imza at\u0131yor? \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc sorumluluk devletin tamam\u0131na aittir. Bir ki\u015fi \u015f\u00f6yle bir olaydan dolay\u0131 yarg\u0131lan\u0131yor. \u00d6teki de, \u00f6teki de yarg\u0131lan\u0131yor. T\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fcn alt\u0131nda 3 tane imza. Siyasi sorumluluk s\u0131f\u0131r. Demiyorum size yarg\u0131lanan insan veya siz su\u00e7lusunuz. Bunu mahkeme s\u00f6yler. Ama bu i\u015fin hi\u00e7 mi siyasi sorumlulu\u011fu yok? Bu i\u015f b\u0131rak\u0131n Almanya\u2019da, Fransa\u2019da, \u0130ngiltere\u2019de\u2026 Endonezya\u2019da olsa h\u00fck\u00fcmet 15 defa istifa ederdi. Siz \u00f6yle bir noktadas\u0131n\u0131z ki istifay\u0131 ge\u00e7tim a\u00e7\u0131klama yapmay\u0131 \u00e7ok g\u00f6r\u00fcyorsunuz. G\u00f6revden alma s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda haftalar sonra g\u00f6revden al\u0131yorsunuz. \u0130stifa diye onurlu bir m\u00fcessese var.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\u201cSizden \u00f6nce de UBP H\u00fck\u00fcmetleri g\u00f6rd\u00fck ama b\u00f6ylesini g\u00f6rmedik arkada\u015flar. Bas\u0131n gidin\u2026\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBu memlekette art\u0131k kimse kendini g\u00fcvende hissetmiyor. Neden? Sayenizde\u201d diyen Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cSizden \u00f6nce de UBP H\u00fck\u00fcmetleri g\u00f6rd\u00fck ama b\u00f6ylesini g\u00f6rmedik arkada\u015flar. Bas\u0131n gidin \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc sizin i\u00e7in de daha iyi olacak. Derlenip toplanmaya ihtiyac\u0131n\u0131z var\u201d \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erh\u00fcrman, \u201cBu melektin siyasi k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc tarihinde ilk kez bu kadar yerlerde s\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcyor\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>CTP lideri Erh\u00fcrman, Mecliste \u201cadalet\u201d tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131 g\u00fcndeme ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131; isim vermeden UBP Kad\u0131n Kollar\u0131 Ba\u015fkan\u0131 Fato\u015f \u00dcnal \u2018Juju\u2019ya uygulanan farkl\u0131 muameleye ve \u00c7al\u0131\u015fma Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u00d6zel Kalem M\u00fcd\u00fcr\u00fc K\u00f6se\u2019nin r\u00fc\u015fvet iddias\u0131yla yarg\u0131lanmas\u0131 s\u00fcrecine de\u011findi. 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